NRA Curriculum in Public Schools? Kansas House Votes Today

Guns don’t belong in schools and neither does the NRA’s curriculum. Urge your Kansas representatives to vote NO on HB 2460.

Just a little over a week since 17 people were murdered in a public Florida high school, the Kansas House will debate and vote on a bill that forces the use of the NRA’s Eddie Eagle program and the Department of Wildlife’s Hunter Education program in public schools in Kansas. Check out our previous post about this bill for more information about why it’s not a good idea. In addition to what we’ve written before, this bill is being promoted as an alternative to safe storage requirements. Translation: the NRA wants to put the responsibility of not getting shot on kindergarteners instead of requiring their parents to lock up their guns. 

This bill will be voted on in the House today at some point after 10am, probably pretty early in the session, but it depends on how long the other bills being discussed take. Check out the livestream here to tune in.

Please call your representatives and urge them to vote NO on HB 2460. We’ll update this as we get more information.

Update at 10:10 am: House is in recess until 11:00 am.

Update at 2:00pm: They passed over the bill, but kept it on the calendar. A reporter at the Statehouse tweeted the following earlier:

It’s unclear whether this will be voted on today or saved for another day and it’s unclear what “more comprehensive” will mean. We’ll stay on top of this and keep you updated as we know more.

Gun Bills in Kansas Senate Today- What You Need to Know

At 10:30am today, there will be hearings on 2 gun bills- HB 2042 and HB 2145 – in the Senate Federal and State Affairs Committee Room 144-S. Both of these bills passed the House of Representatives on February 1, 2018. If the Senate Committee votes to pass these bills, they will go to the full Senate.

HB 2042 (as it was amended in the Committee of the Whole in the House) will do the following things:

  • Legalize Concealed Carry Reciprocity (CCR), meaning that Kansas will be forced to accept concealed carry permits from other states- no matter what the other state’s requirements are regarding permits or training. The NRA wants to pass this nationally as well (as seen on 60 Minutes recently). They have also been trying to pass it in individual states as well, because one of the NRA’s major goals is to have guns literally everywhere with zero restrictions. 
  • Allow 18-20 year olds (who are currently not allowed to concealed carry in Kansas) to concealed carry guns anywhere with a permit. Remember that Kansas does not require permits or training for people over 21.
  • Require permits for anyone (no matter how old that person is) who wants to carry a gun on a college or university campus in Kansas.

NOTE: HB 2042 would allow a person ages 18-20 from a state that does not require any training at all to get a concealed carry permit to concealed carry in Kansas. It would also allow a person of any age from a state that does not require any training at all to get a concealed carry permit to concealed carry on a college campus in Kansas. Because the majority of college students are under 21, the bill would vastly increase the number of people allowed to carry hidden guns on college campuses in Kansas.

HB 2145 will do the following things: 

  • Make it illegal for the following people to carry concealed guns by changing the definition of the “criminal use of a firearm”:
    • Fugitives from justice
    • Aliens illegally or unlawfully in the United States
    • Persons convicted of a misdemeanor for a domestic violence offense within the past five years
    • Persons subject to court orders restraining them from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner, child, or child of an intimate partner.

A court order must fulfill the following conditions in order for a person to be prohibited from carrying a gun (adapted from the Supplemental Note):

  • It must have been issued after a noticed hearing where the individual had the opportunity to participate
  • Include findings that such person is a credible threat to the safety of an intimate partner or child
  • Explicitly prohibit the attempted, threatened, or actual use of physical force against an intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury.

NOTE: This bill will save lives in domestic violence situations.

Please contact your Kansas Senator AND the Senators on the Senate Federal and State Affairs Committee about these two bills and urge them to OPPOSE HB 2042 and SUPPORT HB 2145. 

There is no livestream provided by the Capitol in this hearing room. Please come to Topeka personally and/or look for live updates about the hearing on our Facebook page and Twitter account. #failcampuscarry #ksleg


Bill introduced to repeal gag law barring KS universities from speaking on guns on campus

Bill introduced on 2/6/2018 to repeal law prohibiting public entities, like universities, from communicating with the legislature regarding guns on campus.

At 9am this morning in the Federal and State Affairs Committee, HB 2677 was introduced to repeal a law passed in 2013 which prohibits any agency which receives state money from communicating with the legislature about “gun control.” This law has been interpreted to mean that the University of Kansas, for example, is not allowed to testify on hearings which concern guns on college campuses or do anything that can be construed as serving the purpose of changing state legislation regarding guns.

When this law originally passed in 2013, another important law was also being passed through Topeka– HB2052– a bill creating the crime of unlawful discharge that, by the time it left the Senate, was also a bill which forced universities, state hospitals and other public buildings to allow concealed carry, with the option of a 4-year exemption period ending on July 1, 2017. The Kansas Board of Regents and all of the university police chiefs in Kansas prior to this point, were in unanimous opposition to allowing guns on campus.

Both of those laws were enrolled on the same day, which meant that in 2015, for example, the state universities were not legally allowed to express disapproval at the bill that ultimately got rid of permit and training requirements in the State, despite its obvious impact on concealed carry on university campuses.

So if you’ve wondered why the Chancellor of the University of Kansas or the administration of Kansas State University has been silent during all of our legislative attempts to reverse campus carry, this gag law barring them from speaking to the legislature is a big part of the reason.

We must repeal this gag law so that the legislature has access to the opinions of those whom some of the laws they are passing affect the most.

Please call your legislators and demand that they support this bill.


Updated to include bill number.

Bill allowing 18-20 year olds to concealed carry passes KS House

In today’s Kansas House of Representatives session, there were two gun bills that were amended on the floor– HB 2042 and HB 2145 — and passed. What happened can be found in more detail below, and on our Twitter feed.

In summary, the Kansas House passed HB 2042 (amended) out of committee. The bill as amended does 3 main things:

  • Passes Concealed Carry Reciprocity (CCR), which is an agreement between states to accept other states concealed carry licenses. This is something the gun lobby wants because it allows them to get around permit and training requirements in states that have stricter requirements. They want it because it will make it easier to further restrict gun laws.
  • Allows 18-20 year olds to concealed carry in Kansas with a permit. This is the permit application in Kansas. The training that Kansas requires is only 8 hours long and around $100, so it does not guarantee that someone who has passed it knows how to react in a dangerous situation with their gun.
  • Requires anyone who wants to concealed carry on a college or university campus in Kansas to have a permit like the one mentioned above no matter what their age.

On its face, part of this bill sounds like it might be a good idea, but do not be fooled. The main part of the bill — Concealed Carry Reciprocity — would make the amendments basically obsolete because people from states that don’t require any training to get a concealed carry permit would be able to carry on campus without training. It would make what we have in Kansas — permitless carry — more likely to be a reality nationwide.  This bill is also clearly a step towards no permit or training requirements for people ages 18-20. We must have more stringent permit and training requirements for everyone who carries anywhere and we must prohibit guns on campus. Period.

Explanation of Today’s Events 

This bill would legalize concealed carry reciprocity. This is a huge nationwide effort by the NRA to make permits and training obsolete nationwide. Here’s an explanation of what this concept is from an organization fighting it at the national level.

In today’s session, Representative John Whitmer first introduced an amendment to HB 2042 to fix the dates on the bill so they are current for this year, which passed.

Then, Representative Landwehr introduced an amendment to allow people over the age of 18 but under the age of 21 to legally concealed carry in Kansas with a permit. Right now, no one under 21 is legally allowed to concealed carry in Kansas, and no permits or training are required for anyone over the age of 21. This law would do nothing to enforce permits on those 21+ and would expand who is allowed to concealed carry legally in the state. It was made clear that this would be a step towards 18-20 year olds being allowed to concealed carry without a permit, an ultimate goal of the NRA. This amendment passed with a 82-42 vote.

Representative Ballard then introduced an amendment to allow individual universities to make their own decisions about whether to allow campus carry, which would effectively reverse the campus carry law. That amendment failed 53-69.

Then Representative Vic Miller introduced an amendment to ban bump stocks, which was rule not germane to the bill. A challenge was made to the germaneness ruling and then overruled. Basically, that amendment failed because the Rules Committee didn’t consider it pertinent enough to the bill at hand.

Then Representative Aurand introduced an amendment that would require permits and training for anyone concealed carrying on college and university campuses in Kansas regardless of their age. This amendment passed 70-52.

The House then voted on the bill as amended (with the Aurand and Landwehr amendments explained above) and passed it out of Committee of the Whole.

After more than 2 hours discussing HB 2042, the bill, HB2145, which would create restrictions on carrying guns for people convicted of domestic violence, passed out of Committee without debate or discussion on a voice vote.

If  any of this concerns you, please contact your legislators.